Subject: KIKUPNA
From: siakhen777@gmail.com
To: mungno@hotmail.com
CC: saya.khen@yahoo.com; millhoper@yahoo.com; paukhan2007@gmail.com; lamcin777@gmail.com
Dear Sia Mungno,
Nunga kong dotnate nong dawnkikna sung pan Point ka tomlak kikna le katellohte ong dong kik ing. Kheldotna hilo in, MUC vai-a om issue-te Theology tawh kikoi cizop cih leh koiteng kituak-a koiteng kituaklo cihte saikiak-in historcal Theological Point of view pan en-in atelcian nuam hi zaw ing.
Lungduai taka, manlah ding pipi kawmkaal-ah, nong dawnnate zong nakpi-in lungdamin, nong cimtak loh nading zong ong thum lai ing. September 4, 2011 Sunday ni-a nong kikuppih kikna sung pan-in anuai-ateng tomkai-in pawlkhat katel lohte akician zaw dingin kong dong thuah lai hi.
1. Gupna pen Mission(Organzation) sung bek-ah omlo hi.(Tomlakna #1)
2. Gup ngah nading in SDA Organization tawh kizop kul cih tawh kisai:
a. Kawlgam ah SDA Conference omlo hi.
b. MUC pen Conference himah hi. Ahizongin SDA Conference hilo hi.
“SDA Conference hileh SDA buaisak lo ding hi. SDA Conference hi ung acih teitei uh pen mite lampial nading le SDA Pawlpi suksiat nading Dawimangpa khemna(tactic) molhtum hi.”
Ngaihsut Ding Dotna:
1) Tua hi leh MUC in banghangin amau le amau SDA kici teitei-uh hiam?
2) SDA hihna bang hi-a, SDA hihlohna bang hiam?
3) MUC in Legitimate or dully organized/ GC recognized SDA Conference hi ung ci-in Pawlpi mite khem uh hiam?
4) MUC in Official Declaration bang ci neih uh hiam?
c. SDA Pawlpi tawh kizop kik mengmeng ding kisam hi.
“MUC….pen Dawimangpa in SDA Pawlpi a suksiat theih nading leh SDA Pawlpi mite a lampial theih nadingin SDA Pawlpi mun suangaa thumanlopi tawh a khemna(tactic) molhtum lianpi khat ahi hi. SDA pawlpi a it takpite in SDA pawlpi tawh kizop kik menmeng ding kisam hia.”(sia mungno)
Hih teng ka tom kaih ciangin, MUC tawh kipawlna pen Dawimangpa tawh kizopna hi-a, dully organized SDA Organization adawldawl tawh kipawlna pen Pasian tawh kipawl na hi, cih khiatna a dawk ding danin na la ing. Lam dang khat tawh gen le’ng:
MUC tawh kizopna pen, SDA Pawlpi itlohna, Satan tawh Kipawlna hi –a Gupna lampi tungah om lo cihna hi ding hi.
SDA Org. tawh kizopna pen Pasian tawh kipawlna hi dinga, Gupna lampi tungah dinna hi cih suak ding hi.
Comment:
Tua hi leh Pawlpi cih ciangin SDA Organization pen pawlpi cihna suak ding hi. Lai Siangtho in Pawlpi achina aspects te SDA pomzia enkim ding kisam ding hi. Gupna ngah nadingin SDA tawh kizop kul or Pasian thute um-in zui kul hi, ci ihih leh organization tawh kizopna pen bang ciang le bang ading cih theological, doctrinal le Organizational point-te panin etkak dimdiam kisam dingin ka mu hi.(sikhen)
d. MUC in thukham (No. 8,9,10) palsat hi. Tua palsatnate pen White-color Crime nam hi. White-color Crime seel nadingin zuau phuak, khem, Pawlpi mite sumpi le sawm-a-khat zang(ih zat pen) ahih manin Pasian in awi lo ding hi.
Dotna:
a. Nong laigelh masa sung-a MUC Thukham palsatnate pen tu-a sungah White-color crime na cih ciangin a nature, value/degree akibang veve a cinuam nahi hiam?
b. Sumpi leh Sawm-akhat itzat na cih ciangin MUC le MYUM (inclusive) in zang hi aci na hiam? Or MUC bek(exclusive) in zang aci nuam na hiam?
3. MUC in SDA Langdo:
“Christian Pawlpi tuamtuam ahi RC, AG, ABM, UPC aki pan pawlpi tuamtuam genloh Buddhishte, Muslimte nangawn in tuni ciangciang kawlgam sungaa SDA Pawlpi bangmah hong nawngkai sak lo uh hi..... MUC makai te in SDA Pawlpi langdo aa Pasian Pawlpi neihsa a suhna, tua teng seel dinga khemna, zuauna leh phuahtawm atuamtuam te pen theipipia mawh altangnate seel , sinn sinn nawn o iin kikheel huai ....ta hi. Gupna ngah leh ngahloh pen Topa Pasian khensatna bang hi ding hi”(sia mungno)
Dotna:
a. SDA Langdona le langdo lo cihna-ah Organizational le Beliefs(Physical and spiritual) koizaw agen nuam na hiam? Or Anih in a gen nuam na hiam?
b. MUC in SDA Beliefs(Doctrine) le Organization alang do hiam? MUC in bang ci dinmun nei uh hiam?
c. RC, AG, ABM…Buddhist, Muslim etc te in SDAte langdo lo takpi mah hiam? or bangte langdo-in, bangte langdo lo uh hiam?(Nakpitak saikak-a ngaihsut ding)
d. MUC in SDA neihsa bangte tuh uh hiam or UMM neihsa bangte tuh uh hiam? (cihte ngaihsut phat ding)
4. Gup ngah nadingin SDA Organization tawh kizop Kul or Kisam cih tawh kisai:
“Organization tawh kizop KUL OR KISAM cilo-in gupna dingin Lai Siangtho sunga Pasian hilh leh gen bang um-in zui leh nuntakpih ding. Tua hi leh Pasian in gup pia ding. A hizongin MUC in SDA Pawlpi langdo le nawngkai sak kawmkawm-in SDA hi ung acih pen lampialna khat hi. SDA a it, a um taktakte in SDA Pawlpi GC, DV, Union le Local Mission/Conference tawh ki zop ding kisam hi.”
Dotna:
a. Hih na cih na pen MUC-te Gupna adingin SDA organization tawh kizop kisam hi aci na hiam, or SDA Pawlpi tawh kipawl kizop khopna ding bek-a aci na hiam? Or anih tuak adding aci na hiam?
b. SDA hihna pen Organization tawh kizopna bek tawh hi aci na hiam? cih telcian sak ding kong thum hi.
Ani Sagihni zangin Jesu Kumkik ding alam en den
Na lawm,
siakhen
Kham Khen Pau
PS: Hih ikikupnate pen mimal kitel khialna omlo-in, MUC le MYUM buaina pan alangnih tuaka adik le akhial thute mipi in thuman ahi ding ciang amuh theih nadingin zong deih ihih manin, mimal kikona, ki eeng cihna, kimawhsakna kihello-in kikup pih ding zawn leng bang ci nasa hiam cih zong thei nuam ing.
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Kong it Sia Khen leh Zomi net member a kua maciat:
Sia Khen aw hi bang iin Topa' thupha hang iin cidam aa lai ih kikhak theih aa pawlpi thu luan zia te ih kikup theih zel man iin Topa' min phat ingh. Manlahna a tuamtuamte hang iin September 8, 2011 ni aa "KIKUPNA" cih thulu tawh nong email khak peen tu ni, October 9, 2011, iin hong khak kik zo pan kahihmanin nong telsiam ding hong ngen ingh.
A nuai aa nong dotna te bel mipi a ding deihsakna tawh nong dot hi cih tel ingh. Tua ban ah nang nong email khak peen nung pek iin khat iin ZAC group member te sung ah forward khin veve ahihmanin net sung ah hong khia pah veth ingh. Leitung mi te in a kalsuan khialh khit phot uh ciang iin kiphatsakna lungtang hang iin khial cih ki thei pipi mah a maan takpi bang keek iin nial (prove or argue) ding hanciam tantan tawntung mawk uh hi.
Gentehna iin Sunday (first day of the week, resurrection day) ni peen Laisiangtho sung ah Pasian in a tuam vilvel iin seh iin thupha pia aa siantho sak ding a genna kammal khat zongh om ngei lo napi Laisiangtho siam, pilna nei tampi te mah in Sunday ni aa biak piakna peen amaan zaw bang iin pom tentan uh iin um takpi ta mai uh hi. Ph.D., Th. D., D.D., D.Min., cih te nei ziazua uh iin biakna thu ah Professor pipi khawng hi napi uh Satan' in a khaa mit uh humciph sak ahihmanin Laisiangtho sung aa sawlna a om kilkel lo, kaal khat aa ni masa peen Sunday mah maan sa zaw thei mawk uh uh hi. Tua mah bang iin CPC (Conference Planning Committee) a kiphuat khiat tung laai iin SDA pawlpi a langdo conference pawl tuam phuan iin sia cial tawm iin SDA pawlpi tawh Kawl kumpi' thukhen zum ah sum leh paai tampi bei lawh iin a kikhia khia ding iin phuan khia het lo ding uh cih thei ingh.
2003 aa Conference Planning Committee hong kipat khiatna peen Conference a kipau lap hang iin ATI vai, Upper Myanmar Mission leh MYUM election vai, Local Church election leh local church sung aa ki thutuah lohna te vai, minam vai, UMM sung aa school subsidy (appropriation) pia/hawm zia vai, REACH International huhna ngah loh vai, etc. lungkim lohna nengneng teng ki gawmkhopna ahi hi. Conference paulap aa kalsuanna pan pride leh ego te hang iin Division lutang te lamlahna nangawn thudon lo iin paisuak khial kha aa tu dong khiam nuam nawn lo iin hi ciang a suak hi mai hi. Hih peen CPC/MUC in a tup leh a ngim kholh loh pipi uh, Dawimangpa in a ngim kholhkholh, "Aisa lo ngek aa zol bang" aa a hei khiatna a zuih man ahi hi. Dawimangpa bel gualzo kisa mahmah ding hi. Ahizongh'n Topa' Khasiangtho in Amah leh A pawlpi a it takpi te ii lungsim te hei ahihmanin Zogam aa SDA pawlpi sung ah kha an lakna te ih mu zel ta hi.
Pasian leh SDA pawlpi a it takpi te ading iin kihei kik hun takpi ta hi. A beisa akipan tu ni ciang dong aa MUC ii kalsuan zia tawh bel leitung bei dong iin MUC in duly organized SDA Conference maan ngah ngei ngei lo ding aa SDA Conference hi ngei lo ding hi. September 8, 2011 ni aa nong dotna te tawh kisai te peen kong dawn theih teng a tom iin nong dotna te zom ah hong dawng pahpah ingh. Sia Khen' gatang kaihna leh dotna:
1. Gupna pen Mission(Organzation) sung bek-ah omlo hi.(Tomlakna #1)
2. Gup ngah nading in SDA Organization tawh kizop kul tawh kisai: Kawlgam ah SDA Conference omlo hi.
b. MUC pen Conference himah hi. Ahizongin SDA Conference hilo hi.“SDA Conference hileh SDA buaisak lo ding hi. SDA Conference hi ung acih teitei uh pen mite lampial nading le SDA Pawlpi suksiat nading Dawimangpa khemna(tactic) molhtum hi.” Ngaihsut Ding
Dotna:1) Tua hi leh MUC in banghangin amau le amau SDA kici teitei-uh hiam? (Sia Khen)
Dawnna: MUC makai te in a saan (admit) loh ding uh hang iin keima' observation ah "MUC in banghangin amau le amau SDA kici teitei-uh hiam" cih leh SDA pawlpi' upna a up uh hang iin lungkim lohna thu tuamtuam te paulap iin SDA pawlpi ki ukna leh tungsiah thu zui nuamlo aa a lang pang te a hi uh hi. Ahizongh'n MUC pawlpi mi te khempeuh or a tam zaw te in SDA pawlpi a it takpi te uh ahihmanun MUC makai te in "amau le amau SDA kici teitei-uh" hi kei leh SDA pawlpi a it takpi pawlpi mi te in taisan/nusia pah ding uh ahihmanin ahih theih laai teng iin MUC a kip theih nading iin SDA hi hangh ci aa SDA pawlpi a misrepresent thapai uh ahi hi.
(b) MYUM in hong dal man bek aa GC tawh a kizom nai lo bek leh mai lam hun ah GC tawh a kizom thei ding bang keek iin a mau leh amau SDA kici teii teii uh hi. Hih peen pawlpi mi te a khemna a hi hi. MUC in a kalsuan zia a kheel masiah, Union leh Division thu mang aa SDA pawlpi sung ah a lut kik phot masiah, SDA Conference a cih peen leitung bei dong ngah ngei peuhmah lo ding cih peen MUC makai te in thei tel lua mahmah uh ahihmanin pawlpi mi te a lungkiat loh nading leh a taisuah khak loh nading uh aa GC tawh ih kizop nai loh hang iin SDA Conference mah hi hangh, Mission te sang iin a saang zaw hi hangh, ci iin a khem behbeh uh ahi hi.
Tu iin SDA pawlpi ngeina maan a thei semsem pawlpi mi te leh MUC' makaihna leh manawhna in amau te SDA pawlpi tawh kigamla sak semsem zaw cih Khasiangtho' theihsakna hang iin telsiam aa SDA pawlpi a it takpi te leh lungsim a niam khiat te in SDA pawlpi sung ah a hong lut kik kik ta uh ahi hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
2) SDA hihna bang hi-a, SDA hihlohna bang hiam? (Sia Khen)
Dawnna: SDA pawlpi hih na peen SDA upna zungpi 28 teng saang iin SDA pawlpi' makaihna zui aa SDA pawlpi mi a suak te bek SDA te ahi uh hi. Gentehna iin kei bang zongh tennis kimawl nuam ka sa mahmah aa ni khat hal sim iin ni khat nai 2-3 ta bang ka kimawl den hi. USTA (United States Tennis Association) ah member lutt ding khawng zongh ka lawm te'n hong zawnzawn zel uh hi. USTA te ii ngimna leh kalsuan zia te khempeuh hoih ka sak hang iin USTA member suah nading a kisam te sem lo kahihmanin USTA member ka hi kei hi. Tua mah bang iin mi khat peuh in SDA pawlpi' upna maan sa iin a zui phial zongh iin SDA pawlpi' ngeina dung zui iin SDA pawlpi mi a suah kei leh or a suah nop kei leh SDA hi lo hi.
SDA pawlpi pan a kihem khia sa ahihhang iin ki sik kik aa SDA pawlpi tawh maapang khawm ding iin khensath aa a ki app kik te SDA pawlpi mi maan hi kik uh hi. SDA pawlpi pan a ki hemkhia khin sa te, SDA pawlpi' makaih zui nuam lo aa SDA pawlpi panpih lo iin a bawlsia or a langdo te peen SDA hi lo uh hi. SDA pawlpi mi khempeuh in amau hih theih zah ciat uh tawh lungsim, tha tang, neih leh lamh leh sumpi te tawh SDA pawlpi panpih ding uh hi. SDA te in SDA pawlpi nawngkaai sak lo iin langdo ngei lo ding uh hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
3) MUC in Legitimate or dully organized/ GC recognized SDA Conference hi ung ci-in Pawlpi mite khem uh hiam? (Sia Khen) Dawnna: SDA pawlpi ii recognized conference hi lo takpi ahihmanin MUC in legitimate or duly organized/GC recognized SDA Conference hi ung a cih theih nading om lo ahihmanin ci ngei lo hi.
Ahihhangin Myanmar Union Conference of SDA ci in leitung bup huam iin misrepresentation bawl ahihmanin MUC peen 'SDA pawlpi mi te' kipawlna, SDA conference taktak hi hangh or ungh' ci aa pawlpi mi te leh a kua mah peuh a khemna, a menna leh a bumna ahi hi. Hih peen khemna lian mahmah khat ahi hi. Legitimate or duly organized SDA conference hi lo ahihmanin MUC in thumaan tak iin gamta hi leh "SDA" Conference a ki cih ngiat loh ding uh ahi hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
4) MUC in Official Declaration bang ci neih uh hiam?
Dawnna: MUC in Official Declaration bang ci neih uh hiam cih peen Sia Khen mahmah in a thei peen ding khat nahihmanin nang nong gen khiat ding hong ngen zaw ingh. SDA pawlpi nawngkai sak nawn loh ding, SDA pawlpi tawh kipawl khawm kik iin Union leh Division' makaihna mang ding leh langpan nawn lo ding ci in MUC in Khasiangtho' makaihna tawh official declaration hong nei mengmeng hen cih peen ka lunggulhna leh ka thungetna ahi hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
c. SDA Pawlpi tawh kizop kik mengmeng ding kisam hi. “MUC….pen Dawimangpa in SDA Pawlpi a suksiat theih nading leh SDA Pawlpi mite a lampial theih nadingin SDA Pawlpi mun suangaa thumanlopi tawh a khemna(tactic) molhtum lianpi khat ahi hi. SDA pawlpi a it takpite in SDA pawlpi tawh kizop kik menmeng ding kisam hia.”(sia mungno)
Hih teng ka tom kaih ciangin, MUC tawh kipawlna pen Dawimangpa tawh kizopna hi-a, dully organized SDA Organization adawldawl tawh kipawlna pen Pasian tawh kipawl na hi, cih khiatna a dawk ding danin na la ing. Lam dang khat tawh gen le’ng: MUC tawh kizopna pen, SDA Pawlpi itlohna, Satan tawh Kipawlna hi –a Gupna lampi tungah om lo cihna hi ding hi. SDA Org. tawh kizopna pen Pasian tawh kipawlna hi dinga, Gupna lampi tungah dinna hi cih suak ding hi.
Comment:Tua hi leh Pawlpi cih ciangin SDA Organization pen pawlpi cihna suak ding hi. Lai Siangtho in Pawlpi achina aspects te SDA pomzia enkim ding kisam ding hi. Gupna ngah nadingin SDA tawh kizop kul or Pasian thute um-in zui kul hi, ci ihih leh organization tawh kizopna pen bang ciang le bang ading cih theological, doctrinal le Organizational point-te panin etkak dimdiam kisam dingin ka mu hi.(sikhen)
Dawnna: Laisiangtho sung ah Pasian' "Pawlpi" a gen ciang iin "Pasian' thukham te zui iin pom aa Jesus Christ ii thuhilhna (testimony) a kem te hi" cih ih thei hi. SDA thu ih gen ciang iin 1863 kum aa a kiphut, min ki vawh, SDA pawlpi, tu laai tak aa upna zungpi 28 a nei, SDA pawlpi sung ah a kipawl khawm Pasian thu um te bek SDA pawlpi leh SDA pawlpi mi te ahi uh hi. MUC tawh kizopna peen Satan tawh kipawlna hi ka cih pah loh hang iin Satan in SDA pawlpi tokh nawi leh a suksiat nading iin SDA pawlpi a it mahmah leh SDA hi ungh a kici, MUC kipawlna zangh ahihmanin "MUC tawh kizopna pen, SDA Pawlpi itlohna" hi aa Satan' molh tum lian mahmah khat ahi hi cih peen kitel mahmah hi. MUC a cih kipawlna a pian maa pek aa a om sa SDA pawlpi leh SDA pawlpi' neihsa te: physical properties - sang inn, biak inn, leitang, etc. te hi ta leh intellectual properties - trademark, registered name, logo, etc. te hi ta leh nawngkaai sak nawn kei henla, SDA pawlpi hi ungh cipong iin "Sial bang iin siksik leh neknek thuah" lo iin Pasian deihna bang iin kalsuan peuh leh tua kipawlna in Satan' molhtum hi nawn lo pah ding hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
d. MUC in thukham (No. 8,9,10) palsat hi. Tua palsatnate pen White-color Crime nam hi. White-color Crime seel nadingin zuau phuak, khem, Pawlpi mite sumpi le sawm-a-khat zang(ih zat pen) ahih manin Pasian in awi lo ding hi.
Dotna:a. Nong laigelh masa sung-a MUC Thukham palsatnate pen tu-a sungah White-color crime na cih ciangin a nature, value/degree akibang veve a cinuam nahi hiam? (Sia Khen)
Dawnna: Mimal khat in hi ta leh kipawlna khat in hi ta leh rules and regulations a palsat leh a palsat mah ahihmanin a kilawm lo gamtatna peuhpeuh a thu neu om tuan lo hi. Tua hi aa MUC leh ama kai te in White-collar crime a bawl uh leh midang te or kipawlna dangte' bawl sang iin neu zaw tuan het lo hi. SDA pawlpi in RC te neihsa or Muslim te neihsa, Baptist te' neihsa te va tuh iin nawngkaai sak leh a maan loh mah bang iin MUC in SDA pawlpi a nawngkaai sakna te thu neu tuan het lo hi.
SDA te, MUC te, Muslim te, RC te cih tawh kisai lo iin crime peen crime ahihmanin thu neu hi lo hi. MUC in hi ta leh SDA pawlpi in hi ta leh hih ki nawngkaaisakna hang iin awn (million) tampi lalthang sak khin ahihmanin hi bang buaina a phuang te tung ah Pasian in thu khen hamtang ding hi. Hi bang aa mawh kalhtangna leh kisik nop lohna te hang iin Pasian' mawh maisakna leh hehpihna a tan lawh om kha ding hi. Cihnopna ah MUC cih kipawlna a sia hi ka ci kei aa MUC kipawlna makai te in a kilawm lo a sep uh ahi SDA min, SDA logo, SDA trademark, SDA pawlpi neihsa te a tuhna, a tuhzawh nading aa zuau phuakna, pawlpi mi te in SDA pawlpi takpi sa kha aa sum pi leh sawm aa khat te a piak te uh tawh SDA pawlpi taktak langdona aa zatna te in a tel khak loh kaal uh iin mawhna lian mahmah ahihmanin ngaihsut phat huai mahmah hi.
MUC sung aa pawlpi mi te a lungsim tawng uh ah a siiangtho tak aa a kalsuan om tham kha ding hi. Ahizong'n MUC makai te bel in a sep te uh thei mahmah pipi aa a sep uh ahihmanin hih white-collar crime leh infringement, piracy te peen crime dang te sang a neu zaw iin a seh uh peen dah huai ka sa hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
b. Sumpi leh Sawm-akhat itzat na cih ciangin MUC le MYUM (inclusive) in zang hi aci na hiam? Or MUC bek(exclusive) in zang aci nuam na hiam? (Sia Khen)
Dawnna: Hih thu tawh kisai iin inclusive zongh hi thei aa exclusive zongh hi thei hi. A zangh peuhpeuh cih na hi. Ahizongh'n a thupi peenpeen ah sumpi leh sawm-a-khat te zat man bek hi lo zaw iin SDA pawlpi' neihsa te suth, tuh, buaisak cih himhim peen khialhna lian mahmah ahi hi. Tua khialhna hang iin Pasian' nasepna ding sumpi te kizang bei laai sawnsawn cih mawk peen cik ziat huai mahmah hi. MUC in SDA pawlpi langdo lo hi leh MUC te in hita leh SDA te in hita leh tithe ahi aa sumpi te ahizongh'n kumpi zum ah zath kul lo ding hi. Pasian gam zai nading aa zat ding sumpi te peen thukhen zum leh land record office khawng aa zuau phuak nading aa a kizat ngiat peen khialhna lian mahmah ahi hi. Hih langdona' gah kicing mahmah ta, na khempeuh ah kisup lawh mahmah ta ahih teh khawl huai ta buang lo ding maw! (Mungno Gualnam)
3. MUC in SDA Langdo:“Christian Pawlpi tuamtuam ahi RC, AG, ABM, UPC aki pan pawlpi tuamtuam genloh Buddhishte, Muslimte nangawn in tuni ciangciang kawlgam sungaa SDA Pawlpi bangmah hong nawngkai sak lo uh hi.....
MUC makai te in SDA Pawlpi langdo aa Pasian Pawlpi neihsa a suhna, tua teng seel dinga khemna, zuauna leh phuahtawm atuamtuam te pen theipipia mawh altangnate seel , sinn sinn nawn o iin kikheel huai ....ta hi. Gupna ngah leh ngahloh pen Topa Pasian khensatna bang hi ding hi”(sia mungno) Dotna:a. SDA Langdona le langdo lo cihna-ah Organizational le Beliefs (Physical and spiritual) koizaw agen nuam na hiam? Or Anih in a gen nuam na hiam? (Sia Khen) Dawnna: MUC in a langdona lianpi peen Organization leh beliefs, a nih ahi hi.
(1) Upna zungpi te (Fundamental beliefs) #14 na, Seventh-day Adventist Church, Yearbook 2010, p. 6, aa “Unity in the Body of Christ” a cih sung ah “In Christ we ----------must not be divisive among us.” "Christ sung ah ei te kikaal ah ------------deidanna phuang te ih hi kei ding hi." ci iin Topa Zeisu Khazih sung ah ih ki pum khat ding ih upna hinapi ei mi, Zomi, deek te, Karen te, cih bang iin minam thu bulphuh iin lam maan hi ta kei leh conference ultung sak mawk hi.
Southern Asia-Pacific Division President Alberto Gulfan in Conference Planning Committee (MUC' min luui) phiat un a cihcih pipi mah Division' makaihna mangnuam lo iin MUC (CPC' min thak) a ki phuat teii teii man iin kikhen khapna a pian khit ciang iin thusia in zomh toto iin kumpi thukhen zum te ah kitut kul zah dong dinhmun tung hi. Mang aa zongh ih mat nop loh, kimuh khialhna, buaina leh kitapkhapna tu ni iin ih phu kha hi. Hih bang thusia te peen thumanlohna (disobedience) leh langdona' gah hi aa upna zungpi 14na palsatna ii a thaman ahi hi.
(2) Upna zungpi te #21 na ah “Stewardship” ci iin "by returning tithes and giving offerings for the proclamation of His gospel and the support and growth of His church." "Pasian thumaan taangkona ding leh Ama pawlpi a khantoh nading iin sawm-aa-khat leh sumpi te tawh Ama pawlpi panpih ding" ci iin Seventh-day Adventist Church, Yearbook 2010, p. 7, ah leh Tuiphum kamciam #9na (Baptismal Vow) ah "Do you believe in Church organization? Is it your purpose to worship God and to support the Church through your tithes and offerings and by your personal effort and influence?" "Pawlpi kipawlkhopna na muang hiam? Na sawm-aa-khat leh sumpi te leh nang ii hanciamna leh huzapp te tawh Pasian bia iin A pawlpi panpih ding peen na lungtup a hi hiam?" ci iin SDA Church Manual, Revised 2010, 18th Ed. p. 47 ah kigelh hi. Hih pawlpi kipawlkhopna a gen te ah RC, ABM, AG pawlpi te a genna hi lo hi. SDA pawlpi a langpan MUC kipawlna zongh a genna hi lo hi. Seventh-day Adventist Church panpih ding a gen ahi hi. SDA pawpi mi takpi ahih leh a sawm-aa-khat leh sumpi te tawh Muslim te, Budhist te, leh SDA pawlpi a bawlsia aa a langdo den keei te huh lo ding uh hi. SDA pawlpi a it takpi te in SDA pawlpi ah 1/10 piak ding peen SDA te ii Upna zungpi te #21 na sung ah om ahihmanin tua a zui nuam lo kalhtang te in SDA pawlpi kipawlna leh upna te ah a lang do ahi hi.
A tom iin MUC in SDA pawlpi panpih gen loh nawngkaai sak den ahihmanin upna zungpi te #21 na palsat hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
b. MUC in SDA Beliefs(Doctrine) le Organization alang do hiam? MUC in bang ci dinmun nei uh hiam? (Sia Khen) Dawnna:A tung aa dotna 3
(a) sung aa dawnna (1) leh (2) sung aa ka gen sa ban ah MUC in SDA pawlpi ii biak inn, sang inn, logo, trademark, etc. te tuh or zath sak iin kumpi thukhen zum ah kikhia khia or khiat ding aa a gamta peen langdo kei cih theih nading paulap om thei lo hi. Hih langpanna peen thu neu het lo hi. Tua hi aa SDA pawlpi a langdo a kisak loh khak uh peen dah huai mahmah hi. MUC din munh peen khial leh maan lo cih thei pipi mah iin a pian theih liai laai teng backgear thun (tonkik) ding, ki sikkik (repent) lungsim nei thei nawn lo uh hi. (Mungno Gualnam) c. RC, AG, ABM…Buddhist, Muslim etc te in SDAte langdo lo takpi mah hiam? or bangte langdo-in, bangte langdo lo uh hiam?
(Nakpitak saikak-a ngaihsut ding) (Sia Khen) Dawnna: Upna thu ah RC, AG, ABM, Buddhist, Muslim, .........te tawh upna kibang lo ahihmanin ih kipawl kei hi. Upna kibang lo hi bek aa gamtatsiatna (crime) hi lo hi. Hong pawlpih loh uh aa upna kibang lo cih loh buang SDA pawlpi neihsa suth lo, gamtatsiatna (crime) bawl lo iin tu ciangciang kumpi zum ah zong khia liangg lo uh hi. Physical aa SDA pawlpi a bawlsia peen tua pawl dang te hi lo iin MUC in bawlsia hi.
Pawlpi makai te langdo iin SDA pawlpi' upna zungpi 28 te bang iin zui kim nuam lo vin ven ahihmanin upna ah zongh a langdo mah suak hi. (Mungno Gualnam) d. MUC in SDA neihsa bangte tuh uh hiam or UMM neihsa bangte tuh uh hiam? (cihte ngaihsut phat ding) (Sia Khen)
Dawnna: 2003 kum iin CPC/MUC hong kipan khia pan ahihmanin Conference Planning Committee or MUC cih a pian maa aa SDA pawlpi in a neihsa te, tu laai tak aa MUC in a zat, SDA pawlpi ii inn mun, lo gam, biak inn leh sang inn te khempeuh a tuh ahi hi. Tu laai tak aa kumpi thukhen zum aa a buaina khempeuh uh peen MUC in SDA pawlpi' neihsa teng a suhna vai ahi hi. 2003 khit zawh ah MUC in leitang a lei thak aa tua leitang te tung ah sang inn leh biak inn te lam thak a neih leh tua teng bel MUC' neih sa hi ding hi. Deih kaih thu tawh a tuamtuam aa a gen pawl khat om sam na ven kitel mahmah ahihmanin kei muhna ah bel ngaihsut phat ding om sa kei ingh. MUC in SDA neihsa a tuh te a thei lo a om leh Satan in a mit humsak aa a khaa mit uh taww hi ding hi. (Mungno Gualnam)
4. Gup ngah nadingin SDA Organization tawh kizop Kul or Kisam cih tawh kisai: “Organization tawh kizop KUL OR KISAM cilo-in gupna dingin Lai Siangtho sunga Pasian hilh leh gen bang um-in zui leh nuntakpih ding. Tua hi leh Pasian in gup pia ding. A hizongin MUC in SDA Pawlpi langdo le nawngkai sak kawmkawm-in SDA hi ung acih pen lampialna khat hi. SDA a it, a um taktakte in SDA Pawlpi GC, DV, Union le Local Mission/Conference tawh ki zop ding kisam hi.” Dotna:a. Hih na cih na pen MUC-te Gupna adingin SDA organization tawh kizop kisam hi aci na hiam, or SDA Pawlpi tawh kipawl kizop khopna ding bek-a aci na hiam? Or anih tuak adding aci na hiam? (Sia Khen) Dawnna: Hih vai peen a kitel tak iin a dawng khin iin kiseh na pi ingh hong dong kik nahihmanin hong dawng kik ingh. Kipawlna in gupna pia thei lo aa Gupna a pia ding Pasian ahi hi. Conference ih hah deih tentan hang iin Conference in gupna hong pia lo ding aa Mission ah ih om tentan man iin zongh gupna hong piatuan lo ding hi.
MUC peen SDA Conference hi lo ban ah hi ci bang gamtatna tawh leitung bei dong SDA Conference suak ngei lo ding ahihmanin SDA pawlpi a it takpi te in SDA pawlpi tawh kizop kik ding kisamh hi. A tom iin SDA tak pi hi'ng a ci te in legitimate SDA Conference or SDA Mission tawh kipawl ding aa lungsim takpi tawh SDA pawlpi panpih ding hi. Gitlohna leh siattatna lam ah citak kei iin Pasian thu leh ki niam khiatna lam ah citak lengg deih huai sa mahmah ingh. Gupna a ngah nuam takpi aa Pasian a zong tak pi, ama thu a zui nuam takpite in ih upna zungpi 28 te nusia lo iin tua upna zungpi 28 te a nei SDA pawlpi langdo lo ding uh aa SDA pawlpi hi ta leh AG, RC, ABM pawlpi te ahi aa mimal khat peuh ahizongh'n thumaan lo tawh a nawngkaai sak sak te hi lo ding uh hi. (Mungno Gualnam) b. SDA hihna pen Organization tawh kizopna bek tawh hi aci na hiam? cih telcian sak ding kong thum hi. Dawnna: SDA pawlpi ih cih peen Laisiangtho' hilhna tawh kizui iin upna kibang aa Sabbath ni a siiangtho sak, Topa' thukham 10 a len kip nuam, Topa Zeisu umh aa A hong kum kik ding a lamen den mi te in a kipawlna min uh Seventh-day Adventist Church ci aa 1863 kum aa a na phuh uh kipawlna (organization) a hi hi.
Registered organization ahihmanin SDA hihna peen SDA organization tawh kizopna hi. 1863 kum aa Seventh-day Adventist Church a kiphuat masiah leitung ah SDA pawlpi khat zongh om lo hi.
SDA pawlpi a kiphuat maa iin Sabbath ni zangh aa Zeisu hong kum kik ding a lamen mi tampi tak om ding hi. Upna a ki bang phial zongh iin SDA pawlpi a cih a om maa aa Pasian thu um mi te peen SDA te hi, SDA pawlpi mi leh SDA pawlpi hi, ki ci thei lo hi.
SDA hihna peen duly organized SDA Church tawh kizopna ahi hi. (Mungno Gualnam) Constitution of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, Article IV sung aa MEMBERSHIP thu peen lungsim siangtho tawh sim le uh a tel huai mahmah hi napi, mi pil mi siam pipi mah in pawlpi mi te a bumna or khemna ding iin a leh a mak iin khia (tellahna pia) mawk uh ahihmanin dah huai mahmah hi.
U Tin Maung in Seventh-day Adventist Church, 2005 Yearbook, Sec. 1 (a) sung pan a nuai aa bang iin let khia hi: "phuaih sey pyi phit nay thaw union conference myaa hneh union mission myaa aa lone (thdoh) kaung mon sua phuaih sii yah onh myih conference hneh mission myaa aa lone kabah conference damah ngilakhan kyi hnaih letkhan yah myih iee a phuaih a sii myaa aa lone” “pa wen ciah pa thdii”. (b) na tawh kisaina om lo ahihmanin “pa wen ciah pa dee” a cih lo buang gelh kik lo hi’ng. A let khiat peen maan hi. Maang lai tawh 2005 Yearbook, p. 9 sung ah a nuai aa bang iin kigelh hi: ARTICLE IV – MEMBERSHIPSec. 1. The membership of the General Conference shall consist of:
a. All union conferences and union missions that have been or shall be properly organized and accepted by vote of the General Conference in session. [General Conference kipawlna ah General Conference kikhoppi sung ah ngeina lammaan bang iin hoih tak aa (properly) vote na tawh a kiphut khinsa leh a kisaang khinsa or a kiphut ding leh a kisaang ding ahi union conference te leh union mission te ki hel ding hi.]Phawk ding: Sec. 1 (b) peen a kisaina om lo ahihmanin kong hel kei hi. Laisim u leh naau te aw a tung aa Kawlpau, Mangpau leh Zopau tawh a kigelh te na en phapha unla a nuai aa teng tawh na lungngaai khawm un. Properly organized – Ngeina lammaan bang iin hoih tak aa vote na tawh GC ki khoppi (session) ciang aa a kiphut ding union conference te a cih na sung ah Myanmar Union Conference (MUC) kihel kha lo hi. A tom aa theih ding iin:
(1) MUC peen hoih tak aa kiphut SDA te' kipawlna hi lo aa Union leh Division ii lungkimpihna leh phalna om lo pi aa a kiphut tawm ahi hi.
(2) Local Conference 3 leh 4 kipawl khawm lo pi iin Union Conference cih bang om ngei lo hi.
(3) Union Conference a kiphut ding ciang iin Division phalna leh lamlahna om lo iin kiphut ngei lo hi. MUC a kiphuh cill akipan tu ni ciang dong kum 9 sung ah Division makai te khat zongh kihel ngei lo hi.
(4) Southern Asia-Pacific Division in MUC peen SDA Conference ngah ding iin GC ah puaksawn or pulaak ngei lo uh aa GC khawmpi (session) ah kikup ding iin 2005 leh 2010 session ah kihel kha ngei nai peuhmah lo hi. Tua bek hi lo iin hi bang gamtat luhek zia tawh leitung bei dong kihel ngei lo ding hi.
(5) SDA Union Mission or SDA Union Conference te in Union session a neih uh ciang iin Division makai te kihel lo iin Union session bawl ngei lo hinapi MUC session te ah Division makai te khat vei zongh kihel lo uh hi.
(6) Southern Asia-Pacific Division of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists meeting te ah MUC makai te SSD in sam ngei lo iin pai kha ngei lo uh hi. Bang hang hiam cih leh SDA pawlpi sung ah MUC cih bang kipawlna om lo iin SDA Conference hi lo ahihmanin MUC te in zongh Division te sam ngei lo uh aa Division te zongh pai ngei lo uh hi.
(7) Myanmar Union Mision pan 2010 GC Session ah sia te 5 leh 6 bang pai uh hi. SDA Mission ahihman aa kisam (invited) aa a pai thei uh ahi hi. MUC pan makaipi te khat zongh kisam lo iin pai kha lo uh hi. Banghang hiam cih leh MUC peen SDA pawlpi sung aa SDA Conference hi lo ahihman ahi hi. Biak inn leh sang inn tawhtang khawng a at tan ziahziah kipawlna peen GC Session ah vote piakna tawh ngeina bang iin hoih tak aa a kiphut ding leh a kisaang ding ahi union conference te sung ah kihel ngei peuhmah lo ding hi.
A tung aa a kibulphuh laigualte (quoted paragraph) in a gennop peen General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists in a saan man nai loh, kum 5 sim General Conference kikhoppi (session) ah kikum aa a saan ding ahi World Division tuamtuam in lammaan ngeina tawh a phuhsa Union Mission or Union Conference ban ah Division leh Union te in lammaan tawh a phuhsa Local Conference te leh Local Mission te a om leh tua te a gen hi bek aa SDA pawlpi kipawlna ahi SDA Local Mission/Conference leh SDA Union Mission/Conference te a gaal neih, Southern Asia-Pacific Division makai te thu a mang nuam lo, Kawlgam sung aa Myanmar Adventist Conference or Myanmar Union Conference cih te pawl a genna hi peuhmah lo hi.
Kawl kumpi thukhenzum vai:Sia Kai Dal in Thudik lo Lahtelna_Anlangh_August 2011 sung ah "Pr Minlwin hong khiat pen Myanmar Union Mission min zat loh nading tawntung khaamna hi aa, Biakinn, sanginn etc te hong ap un cihna hilo hi. Hong ap ning cin khat vei beek min thuu lo hing. Ki thuu hi leh Ks. 5000,00000/- (5000 lakhs) man in MUC college leh MUC KAS apdingin thukhen zum ah hong khia thak ding hiam? Monyua ah hong khiat hi aa, Kawlpi ah ki tuahto in Court Case No. 6, District Court office, Kalay hi." ci aa hong gelh ciang iin nung lam pek aa Sia Kai Lun Mang' hong pulaak khiat thu peen hih thu ahi veh maw ci iin tel pan san ingh. Hih tein 5,000 vai zongh tu maa kaal khat kaal nih laai pawl iin siiang khin cih dan iin za ingh.
A result taktak bel tel kei ingh. Ahizongh'n MUC te lungkim lo ahihmanin Nay Pyi Daw lam, a saang ah kah to ding iin suk tai ding cih khat in zongh za ingh. Saul in Pasian na sem a kisak mahmah laai tak iin Topa Zeisu in "Saul, Saul, bang hang iin kei hong bawl sia na hiam?" a cih tawh kibangh sa mahmah ingh. Thumaan leh Christian lungsim maan dinmunh nei hi leh thukhen zum ah khiat theih ding iin gamta kei henla, kisik kik iin khawl siiangtho leh Christian picing ahihna uh ki mu thei pah ding hi. Pasian nasep nading aa sawm-aa-khat leh sum pi te Nay Pyi Daw lam khawng ah puak nawn loh ding kisam iin khawl hun sa mahmah ingh. Ngaihsut ding paulap leh kalsuanna te:
(1) Conference ih deih theih peen khantohna khat hi aa a lungdam huai mahmah khat hi napi kalsuan zia a dik loh or a maan loh man iin kipawlna leh pawlpi mi hihna pan hepkhiatna (disbandment leh disfellowship) te hong om tak ciang iin lammaan ah kihei kik ding sang iin "Mission te'n hong hawl khiat leh en zongh hawl khia ding" cih bang peuh tawh thuk zaw sop mawk hi.
(2) CPC (Conference Planning Committee) or MAC (Myanmar Adventist Conference) or MUC (Myanmar Union Conference) peen Myanmar Union Mission leh Southern Asia-Pacific Division tawh kizomh thei nawn lo ahihmanin lampi dang (back door) khat peuh tawh SDA Conference a ngah thei ding kisa kha uh hi.
Mizo Conference ah sawm-aa-khat leh sumpi app (puak) leh SDA Conference a ngah thei ding bang iin seh kha mawkmawk uh aa va puak ngei takpi uh hi. Workable channel ding aa a lamet khak ngiat uh in SDA organization ii kalsuan zia a tel het loh lam uh kilangh sak hi. Tua pan iin workable channel ahih lo lam a tel uh hi pan mawk hi. Tua ban ah U Thang Lian Nang in Kawlgam sung aa pawlpi sung thu om zia Mizo Conference makai te kiang ah thu a va sunhna hang aa a piiang thei lo bang iin gen uh hi. MAC/MUC peen lam maan tawh a kalsuan hi leh U Thang Lian Nang in MAC/MUC leh Mizo Conference te kizop ding a dal tan thei zo ding iin bang vangliatna leh panmunh nei ahi hiam!
(3) SDA organization kizopna ngeina te khempeuh kantan iin Union leh Division tawh kizom lo pi iin General Conference ah tithe of tithe piakna or puakna tawh CPC or MAC in SDA Conference a suak thei ding iin seh kha mawk uh hi.
(4) India gam aa Northeast India Union Section pan General Conference delegate iin kum 4-5 sung Dr. Dallian a kihel sung, 2005 General Conference session tungtaang iin Dr. Dallian in Conference hong puak, hong ciah pih ding hi ci aa thuthang a khah bang zong om liangg hi.
(5) Dr. Sangchia in Kawlgam SDA pawlpi sung ah ki itna leh ki lemna a om ding deihsak lua ahihmanin 2006 kum March kha sung iin Kawlpi dong hong zin iin ka va kithuah khawm uh hi. Pawl khat te in Dr. Sangchia ii hanciamna tawh General Conference of SDAs pan MAC or MUC in Conference a ngah thei ding iin a um or a lamen bang om mawk hi. Pawlpi thu kikup ciang iin "Dr. Sangchia kiang pan thuzaksakna ngak phot ning" hong ci ngiat bang om ngei hi. Aizawl khua ah Dr. Sangchia leh Sia Khen te a kimuh uh ciang iin Mission tawh na kigawm khawm zaw un ci iin Dr. Sangchia in deihsakna tawh Sia Khen kiang ah vaikhak hi. Dr. Sangchia kiang pan bangh ngak laai ding aa bang tan vei ngak laai ding! SDA pawlpi tawh kisai, kua thu kua makaihna zui ding cih zongh tel siam lo zah dong iin Conference acih min deih pong aa ih lungkim peen dah huai mahmah hi.
(6) Pawl khat te in Dr. Ng peen Maymyo ah hong pai laai iin Conference tha hong pia mahmah ahihmanin 2010 kiteel kik ciang in Dr. Ng peen Division President din mun ah hong kah to hi leh Conference ngah ding hi hangh ci aa a lamen pawl khat zong om mawk hi. Tua kiteelna ah Pr. Gulfan in Division president mah ngah kik aa Dr. Ng peen Division Executive Secretary dinmunh pan General Conference ah Executive Secretary panmunh khang to hi. U te naau te, mi mal muang aa Dr. Ng in hong panpih theih ding a lamen te in tu iin amah GC Executive Secretary hi ta ahihmanin bangh hang iin Dr. Ng kiang ah Conference hong piak nading va nawk kik lo iin dai cip thapai mawk uh ahi hiam?
(7) U te naau te aw, paulap zon behbeh mawk lo iin kalsuanna maan ah ih kalsuan ding a thupit lam telsiam ta peuh un. Ih Kawlgam sung aa na-lee-hmuh te dan tawh lamen mawkmawk iin a piiang thei ngei lo ding thu te peuh "va mim delh" bang iin delh delh loh ding, huih lakh ah innpi lam iin huih nung delhdelh (chasing the wind) huai nawn lo hi. Lung ciim ding kisamh iin hun mahmah ta hi. Union, Division, or GC makai te a kikheel man iin MUC in Conference a ngah thei ding iin lam enen nawn kei un. General Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Conference status ngah nading eligibility (requirements) a koih te ih diph, ih tangtun, ih picin sak ciang bek iin SDA Conference a kingah thei ding ahih lam telsiam ta peuh un. Working Policy sung ah om kei ta le Kawlgam aa MUC' deih bang aa General Conference of SDAs in outside of working policy tawh Conference hong piak ding lamen cih mawk peen ngaihsutna a picin nai loh man ahi hi. Kawlgam aa Kawlpi pan GC ukh ding a sawm tawh kibang zaw sop mawk hi hangh.
SDA pawlpi mi maan leh SDA kipawlna maan ihih leh GC leh Division makai te thu a zui ding te ihih zawk lam tel ciat ni. Hi bang iin ih kikup ciang iin MUC makai te, MUC pawlpi mi te leh MUC kipawlna muhdah man hi het lo iin deihsakna tawh itna bulphuh aa thumaan hong kuppih hi zaw kahihmanin thumaan a lunggulh te khempeuh in a teltuam ding iin lamen ingh. Ih biak Topa Pasian in no te khempeuh tung ah thumaan telsiamna thupha hong guan henla Pasian pawlpi sung ah kipum khat iin maa pangkhawm ciat ni. Itna takpi tawh, Mungno GualnamRiverside, California
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sianmuang@hotmail.com,
sianzun@yahoo.com,
“Lun Huai”
simonpaubawi@gmail.com,
sangchia7@yahoo.com,
simheisa@gmail.com,
suante.ht@gmail.com,
“Kai Khan Khual”
LaLam
suantuanpau@gmail.com,
stephen.nang@googlemail.com,
“Thangta”
taangpau@gmail.com,
Sawm Tawng
tawtalay@gmail.com,
thangtuang@gmail.com,
“Ruby Thainkok”
teteuh_2000@yahoo.com,
thawnkhai@gmail.com,
thangbright@gmail.com,
Thangbawi
Nang Suan
Thang Lam
Pau Kap Thang
“Tuan Go Pau”
Thang Kang Lo
thawnp@gmail.com,
taksinthumung@mail.com,
tkhen.lian@gmail.com,
tongseal@yahoo.com,
tongseal@gmail.com,
Donno
tunpi95@yahoo.com,
tzpau.lunmual@gmail.com,
Ngaih Vung
vandeihtuang@gmail.com,
Vungpi
Vungkhek
“Vanlalchhawna”
Rualchhina Vangchhia
Vung Za Niang
vumhaug4@yahoo.com,
vungnoster@gmail.com,
Langh Suan
zomi ka hi hi
Dalmung V Kuntong
wallacelianpi@yahoo.com,
Zam Deih Piang
“ thusim kuamahtelzawhloh”
”Zam Lian Mung”
zoboih@gmail.com,
“Thang Siangh”
zampau26@gmail.com,
zam_lam2001@yahoo.com,
“ Zomi Adventist”
Niingpi
“Samuel Sang”
“zl lian”
zothanghono@gmail.com
dateMon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:47 PM
subjectSia Khen leh Sia Mungno te kikupna II, October 9, 2011
